It’s Not Rocket Science Five Questions Over Coffee with Jenny Jarvis, Mindset Coach (Ep. 5)

Who is Jenny?

Jenny is a life coach with a great money mindset workshops which are having fantastic results.

Key Takeaways

1. Understand what you actually want

2. Take the time to get intimate with your finances

3. Find the positive in your current situation

Valuable Free Resource or Action

Read more about Jenny at http://jennyjarvislifecoaching.co.uk/about-me/

Transcript

Note, this was transcribed using a transcription software and may not reflect the exact words used in the podcast)

Stuart Webb 0:41 

Hi, and welcome back to another one of our it’s not rocket science five questions over coffee, your important thing is you’ve got your coffee. And I’m here today with Jenny Jenny Jarvis, who is a life coach who’s got a great money mindset workshop is having some really fantastic results. So I’m really excited about getting into what Jenny’s got to say about that, and the money mindset. So, Jenny, welcome to the it’s not rocket science, five questions over coffee. Hi, Kara. It’s really nice to be here.

Right now, let me just, yeah, let’s just dive into the questions which I know, you know, we’re going to have a great talk we took as long as you like, so what’s the biggest challenge your ideal client faces normally in their business or personal life?

Jenny Jarvis 1:29 

Yeah, well, that’s kind of the thing, it’s the getting the balance of things. And my clients are really motivated and successful in all sorts of areas of their life, but mostly lack confidence and have a desire to create increase their communication skills. So confidence in the communication are two things that come up a lot. And money often appears as an issue around charging for services. So a lot of my clients, particularly small business, have a struggle about what to charge. And a lot of them particularly quote, coaches are altruistic, and they feel they want to give away a lot more of themselves. And actually, that’s not really good business. And it’s not good for our soul, either. Sometimes we give away too much. So my clients are motivated, and they are successful, but there can be areas of their life that are just not quite right. I get lots of women who have great careers, but their personal life not fantastic, or people who have you the personal life, but their careers aren’t fantastic. So it’s getting everything. And I believe we can have everything.

Stuart Webb 2:31 

That’s brilliant. what’s what’s the common mistake, people try and make them before they turn to somebody like you to get back to the pill.

Jenny Jarvis 2:40 

I was talking about this, specifically, actually turn your client the other day. And I think we spend years and years 10 years for me working on our own reading books, watching YouTube videos, thinking that we have all this knowledge, we know what our blocks are, we know what the issues are. And we can do it ourselves. And we spent 10 years doing that sometimes. And then all of a sudden, this client came to me, and we did an hour session. And he’s like, what happened? I don’t understand. I’ve read all the books, I’ve got all the knowledge, but you haven’t blocked years worth of stuff in one hour session. What just happened? And he was absolutely amazed. He’s really into personal development. So it’s not new for him. But having somebody in front of you that’s gentle, that challenges things and asks those questions. number of clients that say to me, Well, I’ve never thought of asking myself that question. That’s why you pay me? Because I do. So yeah, I think a lot of people think they can do it on their own. And they read the books and they’re interested. But having someone in front is so different. Yeah, it’s fascinating. You say like, I remember listening to a coach, consultant, Atul Gawande, I don’t know if you’ve heard about Gandhi. Peter is a surgeon, actually a medical medical professional, top of his game, quite quite brilliant surgeon. And he said, I don’t believe that, you know, I would need a coach. But he asked another surgeon to come and watch him do a surgery. And he spent an hour on this surgery. And he said it was the perfect surgery. And absolutely everything went right. And he turned to the guy that was asking him to come and coach him. And he had five pages of notes. And he sort of looked at this and went, What are you spotting he went the way that you hold your scalpel. This doesn’t give you that flexibility for your elbow, to move freely when it needs to end. He went through some very detailed stuff. And there were things that he couldn’t have spotted for himself, because he’s in the process. He’s in this in the flow as it were doing the surgery. And it’s somebody looking from the outside and saying, Well, what about such and such a thing? I’ve never thought to think about that’s just not what I’m doing at that time. So you’re absolutely right, everybody, everybody needs somebody to just sort of stand outside looking at what you’re doing and just say, you know, you’re thinking about

Stuart Webb 5:00 

about when you do it, are you just in the flow and therefore not even sort of taking notice of those things that would improve performance? Everybody needs somebody to sort of just help them on that path. Yeah. And I think you’re absolutely right. You know, people just need a little help occasionally to get there. So yeah, so So what about that valuable free resource that you point people towards in order to sort of help overcome those mistakes and those those challenges?

Jenny Jarvis 5:28 

For me, I offer a free discovery session, which is an hour long. And in that session, we work out whether we’re a good fit for, for future coding. But also within that one hour, you will unlock all sorts of things just from a discovery call. So I would always recommend booking a discovery call with a coach, you will find out so much about yourself that you can possible. So if you want to book a discovery call, I think my LinkedIn details on the bottom. And I’d be really happy to do that. And the other thing I want to talk to you a bit about, is think about what you use for money. This is something we do in our money mindset workshop in great detail. And it has such a big unlocking value, and what words do you associate with money?

The positive words and see what do you really genuinely feel positive about those words? Because not everybody does. And it’s fascinating how the words we work on within our workshop are generally positive words. So their words like savings, ease, stability, security, all, they all sound really great. But the clients that bring them up, I hear from the way they say them to me, that they’re not happy with those words. And they’re not at ease with the words and then we do a lot of work on it in the workshop. And this is

something that you can do at home. And at the very top level, I would look at it, what words do you associate with money? And how do you really feel about them?

Stuart Webb 6:59 

That’s interesting. And I know you’ve mentioned those money mindset workshops to me before and you get some great results with those. And some sort of, you know, I don’t know, if you can give us without going into too much personal detail about some of those in those unlocking events, what they’ve unlocked for people and exactly how they’ve moved things forward. sure that the workshops have been profound in a way that I didn’t anticipate, actually, we’ve extended the workshop from a two hour to a three hour workshop, because we understood after the first few that we need to put some breaks in the middle, it gets really deep. And so we’ve had quite a lot of tears in in, which was unexpected, really. And the the person I collaborate with Rafe, he does constellation family constellation therapy. And what that does is it looks at how we how our mindsets with money start very early in life. And our connections to parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, people who were in our lives as children, and their thought processes around money. And so when he does that bit, it unlocks all sorts of Oh, oh, yeah, to know that, but I didn’t. And that makes a lot of sense. And once we’ve got that part, I then move on to the word association. So

Jenny Jarvis 8:24 

when we work with a lady last week, who had a real problem with the word ease, and her problem with the word ease was actually highlighted by someone else saying the word ease around or the inner, her feeling.

I don’t like that, that feels uncomfortable. Why would the word ease feel uncomfortable. And just working through the process of unlocking that she just all of a sudden felt easy with the word ease. After that, we do a

coaching session. So the start of coaching, we do the goal setting, and we do the reality of where you are in the situation. And then we create things to move forward. And actually discovered also that people can struggle with I want. So when I think what do you want, particularly our generation, we were told as kids and we probably tell our own kids I won’t ever get. And it means that people struggle them to find what they want in life, because they feel like they shouldn’t want anything. And if you want something, it’s not going to happen. So we unlock a lot of the thought processes behind I want. At the end of our last session, the whole group has asked to do a refresher in a couple of months, so that they can regroup as the same group, which of course we’re really happy to do. But that impact of the group getting together and going wow, can we do this again because I see where we are in a month’s time. And we’ve organised that so that that was also really interesting to see their reaction immediately was This is amazing. Can we do it again?

Stuart Webb 9:59 

Right

Jenny Jarvis 10:00 

profound revolt results. I mean, it’s amazing. I’m just, I’m just blown away by the fact that you can, you can help unlock those. And I identify with something that I think I struggled with, because I can remember my mom saying to me, you know, I want never get so you think won that case, I don’t want to ever say I want again, do I because that will not get you anywhere.

Stuart Webb 10:21 

And it was early in my,

my scientific career, when somebody said to me, Well, what do you want? And I looked at them and said, Well, I don’t know. And they said, Well, you better find out quickly, then Hadn’t you. And that was a profound shock to me, when somebody looked at me went, Oh, I’ve actually got to get my act together on that one, I really do need to, because apparently, they need to know about it. And just changing that mindset, which was quite profound for me. So I can see how those words really affect the way people put these sort of associations. The other great that you’re sort of addressing that I details of those workshops he just talked about as well with your within your LinkedIn informations, you can find that if they need to the next, and the next ones on the 27th of February. And I believe I should have checked that should mine really, I’m fairly sure is the 27th of February, but you can always you can always update later. That’s the wonderful thing about the internet. It’s it’s never ever dead, it will constantly be there to remind you whenever it’s on. So I’m sure they’re evergreen, I’m gonna be doing more.

Jenny Jarvis 11:25 

Family times this morning, I thought check the date, check the day, I had a client this morning, and it ran over a bit. And we were doing a lot of unlocking this.

Stuart Webb 11:34 

Fantastic, great real life real life stuff. So. So talking about that, that journey, we were just you’re just talking about sort of things? And is there a particular programme or course or realisation that you had that sort of brought you to where you are at the moment.

Jenny Jarvis 11:50 

Yeah, and I when I was pregnant with my eldest daughter, and subsequently afterwards, I ended up with postnatal depression. And that was there wasn’t an awful lot of help. And this kind of help. When you’re going through it a little bit, I find it really difficult. But afterwards, you just kind of churned out into the world again, there you are, you’re you’re feeling okay. And actually, it’s, you’re not the same person anymore. So it’s really difficult to then go back into your corporate job or do you know, there’s all sorts of things that happened been through trauma. And before I had my second daughter, I then decided to embark on a 20 week programme of hypnotherapy and NLP, I don’t really know why signing up for I just knew I didn’t want to feel the way I did again. And that sort of started my journey.

And that particular moment changed me from being a very negative person, which, you know me a bit here, and you probably wouldn’t understand that I wasn’t negative person, but I was incredibly negative mindset. And that turned that around 14 years ago. And then I recently,

in the last five years, started on my coaching journey. And within that I have my own coach. And it’s all coaches have their own coach, because we know how important it is. It’s like a dentist not going to the dentist it

coaches. So when I went to my coach and NLP practitioner, and I said, I really want to work on my money mindset. And she said to me, what has taken you this long, you’ve had all these things, you’ve done coaching, what got you to this stage, that you now want to work on your money mindset? And I said, well, it’s now a priority. In the past, I was dealing with my negative mindset, I was dealing with anxiety, I had massive anxiety. I was dealing with life, like, you know, having kids having husband moving around the country, I was dealing with all that stuff. And so I dealt with that. And now money is a priority for me. And a lot of the people on my course for the money mindset are actually in their 60s, which really surprised me how long people hold on to money mindset issues. And in their 60s, they’re going I’ve had enough of this, I want to do something different. So if we can get people coming in their 20s and 30s

and not having the next 20 years it would be really benefit them. I remember going to the cash machine and shaking in case it didn’t give me the money or tapping at the supermarket. It was going to actually pay for my soup shopping so ridiculous. So for me having that NLP was just blew the lid off of everything. Charging. I’m terrible at charging, do everything for free. I was I was a really good professional volunteer.

Stuart Webb 14:44 

Not great, wonderful phrase. I love it. I love it. I’ve not come across that one. I’m going to be using that again. I should be stealing professional volunteer. It’s on my CV.

Jenny Jarvis 14:55 

Yeah, I volunteer for everything. So I’m the chair of all sorts of thing by teacher

Stuart Webb 15:00 

Free,

Jenny Jarvis 15:01 

I do lots of things for free. And all of a sudden, I was like, okay, where’s my value, where’s my worth, and giving away a lot of myself, I’ve got booked two years worth of experience in life, I’ve been paying for my own personal development. Now 1000s of pounds on my own personal development. And so I need to get some of this back. Because if there’s an energy exchange is really bad for us emotionally. And we need that energy exchange. And sometimes people that can’t afford it is not, I do some free coaching, mainly with single parents who really don’t have the money, there’s always

an exchange of some description. So quite often, it’s a testimonial. And, you know, if they get an only if they get good benefit from it.

Sometimes it’s just having the feedback from them. But I get one of my ladies who messages me all the time saying I’ve had a great day, thanks for our session. And that is a good energy exchange. So as long as there is some sort of exchange, but we can’t live on fresh air. And the money mindset is about getting people to realise that we can’t live on fresh air and there has to be an exchange, and we have to be what we’re worth.

Stuart Webb 16:16 

Brilliant, usually a lot more than we think.

I’m very reminded of that, because of a story I heard some years back with an engineer that came to Henry Ford, I said back in the sort of early 1900s. But uh, but Henry Ford plant had come to a halt. And the the the lines were down, it was costing him a lot. And they tried to fix it. And they called in an engineer. And the engineer spent about 20 minutes looking at something and then he put one screw back into a conveyor belt and everything started and he presented at the time and extortionate bill to Henry Ford of $100,000. And Henry Ford looked at it went, that is extraordinary. You’re here, 20 minutes in, you use one screw and he said, Would you prefer me to itemise that for you, Mr. Ford cost? Ford said yes. And he broke it down $99,999.85 for the experience, 15 cents for the screw. And you know, it’s back to the fact that you add value you add, you know, that much value, that value comes out a cost to you. And that energy that you’ve put into it, you need that exchange in order to be able to rebuild it so that you can do it again, that’s part of what we have to accept. Yeah, and with coaching, and also the sort of thing that you do. And these are things that last.

Jenny Jarvis 17:37 

So you might need top ups with coaching, but you know more about yourself, see, when you get into tricky positions, you can start asking yourself some of the questions that I couldn’t ask you because you do get you and for yourself, the skills that you give people will follow them to grow their businesses. And that I think is what we look at is the whole transformation. It’s not the hour session that we give. And often it’s not even an hour session. And often like we do lots of writing and homework in between. And there’s lots of message exchanges and things but it’s not that session, it’s the whole transformation, and the A to B, and then we get I get you from A to B and then you take yourself wherever you want to go after that.

Stuart Webb 18:22 

brilliant, brilliant message. I love it. I love it, Jenny. So finally, I mean, there’s a question that I should have asked you, which I haven’t. What what’s, what’s the I could have asked that would really give value to our audience?

Jenny Jarvis 18:37 

And yeah, it’s, it’s funny, because he asked me that question. I was like, I love that question. I asked my clients that question all the time. But being asked that question,

it’s really difficult.

So I asked him,

I asked a few people about it. And one of the questions that came up that made me laugh, and this is the one I’m gonna ask is, why did rapes wife, Ray facilitates the money mindset course with me. Why does she pay for work for a money mindset course when her husband is one?

I can give you the answer to that. And the answer to that is

you can do all the free stuff and wealth I have. But actually having skin in the game makes you really invest in yourself. If you’ve paid and as that exchange, if you’ve paid for something, you get so much more out of it than it is free. And there are people that genuinely can’t afford to pay for things and that’s a different scenario. But raves wife felt invested fully in the day and in the cooling programme, because she paid for it. If she just gone along as race wife. She could just be in there as race wife and we may not even have paid so much attention to her because she wasn’t paying it with us.

Sort of sidelined, he was fully invested in fully immersed. And I think that we, in this current age, spend so much time looking for free things. And we think, well, I can do it for free. You can, you absolutely can do it for free. But how motivated Are you if you do it for free?

Stuart Webb 20:19 

Do you know i gonna have to go and have a conversation with a couple of people around here at the moment about the amount of stuff I’m doing free, which perhaps I should be paid for. So I’m going to take that particular message and lesson and apply it very personally this afternoon, Jenny. And I should be saying to somebody about the amount of work that’s going on, which apparently I’m doing free, that needs a bit more investment, you might want to work on the exchange there.

Jenny Jarvis 20:47 

You might

be on a sticky wicket.

Stuart Webb 20:52 

Let’s let’s deal with the exchange problem later on, Jenny. That’s brilliant. And at that, I’m going to leave it and I’m just going to say thank you very much for a really entertaining sort of 20 minutes journey. Remember, if you want to see more about what Jenny’s doing her LinkedIn profile is down below, go find out what she’s up to saving, find out more about that free, free hour of what have you got to lose spending an hour talking to Jenny unlocking things, even if nothing else happens, you’ll get a free hour of understanding yourself better at nothing else. And Jenny being yet again another great professional volunteer. And also about those money mindset workshops, which sound like they’re a great idea. And if you’d like to sort of see more of these and keep up to date with what we’re doing the complete approach, go to this link, which is tcaa dot FYI, that’s TTA dot forward slash subscribe. That way, you’ll get all of the advanced notice of when these are happening and keep up to date with us on places like Twitter and Facebook in such a journey. Thank you so much for that. You can also find me on Facebook under Jenny. Well, it’s Jamie holiday job is on Facebook. So if anybody wants to friend request me please do. I have Facebook group which I will guide you to if you do that. Brilliant. Thank you, Jenny, thank you so much. Look forward to speaking again on this. If I look forward to hearing about how many people are gonna afford to lose money when tech workshops and the results you’re gonna get. So thanks very much. Thanks. Have a great day. Andy